Discussion: Flake: If Trump Fires Mueller, Only Remedy Is 'Through Impeachment'

yeah: make it three.

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Yes, if passed without the requisite super-majority.

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Same majority needed for impeachment… How many times we getting that enough votes out of Repubs in the Senate?

The actual text:
“The Senate shall have the sole power to try all impeachments. When sitting for that purpose, they shall be on oath or affirmation. When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside: And no person shall be convicted without the concurrence of two thirds of the members present.” (My emphasis)

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Is “good cause” subject to review?

If it is, what do you suppose would happen if it was found to be un-good?

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IIRC he’s voted GOP party line pretty consistently.

So IMHO no credit for talking about doing the right thing.

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I think he should be impeached for his lack of action against Russia.
That is by far the most consequential misfeasance of his Presidency.

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Empty talk: Saying the obvious, Constitutionally speaking. Plus, Flake is retiring this year. Talk for him is free.

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And make him say “Thank you sir, may I have another” every time.

Flake, like Prince Humperdinck, said something.

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Under the current Special Counsel provision, yes, he would have the right to appeal to the Courts if he felt his removal was not for “good cause”.

The big difference between what exists now, and what existed until 1999 (when it was sunset), is only the President or the AG can appoint the special counsel, not Congress.

A much larger concern, though one that Trump is likely to consider because its not as flashy, is putting someone overseeing Mueller who actively engages in impeding his investigations…basically slow walk it to a stand still. Removing either Sessions or Rosenstein would allow that to happen. (Or Sessions announcing he is lifting the recusal he set upon himself could do it too).

Trump stands to lose everything, including his money and freedom, because of Mueller’s investigations. The legal jeopardy doesn’t end with either impeachment or resignation. So yes, it is that dangerous to him, and there really isn’t any other options on the table, short of cutting a deal with Mueller/Pence to resign and receive a full pardon. (And I think that is where this all will end up normally…but mentally and emotionally, Trump isn’t normal).

That’s correct. But again, what other options does he have available? That question becomes basically moot when you factor in his NPD

So the question worthy of asking at this point is a timing question, and it applies to the GOP in Congress. Is it better to have Trump impeached before November, or sometime in 2019? IMO, for the GOP, its far better to do it before November, while they still control both Houses and can therefore control some level of the spin on it, as well as the blowback. A 2019 impeachment results in, politically at least, an unspoken condemnation of the GOP for enabling and refusing to deal with Trump. And they will have much less control over the PR side of such an impeachment.

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Well, duh. It was in writing. If they wanted to communicate their warning to the President, they should have booked time on Fox & Friends and presented their warning there.

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Yes
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Article I, section 5 of the Constitution requires that a quorum (51 senators) be present for the Senate to conduct business.

so then the challenge would be to arrange the vote on impeachment to occur on a day when all 35+ of the GOPers ar off on some boondoggle junket / drunk fest / military contractor extravaganza

Really? Execution is off the table? Damn!

Actually, I know lots of people who say things but don’t follow through. They are called ‘blowhards.’

I guess you aren’t dying yet.
Check in with the update when you are.

Well, actually, I was 17 years ago, but I survived and it wasn’t on a national stage.

I do too
They are called “human”

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