Discussion: Jordan Doubles Down That Abuse Reports Are Attacks From Left: I Find It ‘Suspect’

rascal_crone · July 19, 2018, 5:05pm

“I guess I would like to think the reason you see the left coming after me and lies being told is because we’re being effective in doing what we told the American people we’re doing and I also think it has something to do with the fact that I think President Trump is doing a great job and we’re trying to support and help him make America great again,” he continued."

that is what he would like to think. but he knows it’s because he’s complicit in letting young men be abused,and the continued destruction of democracy in the present. I hope the truth gets a headlock on you Jordan.

rascal_crone · July 19, 2018, 5:06pm

a statement made by others and never challenged by the media. good point str. don’t let them frame the narrative

philmore · July 19, 2018, 5:10pm

I found it sickening when official Church communiques referenced “temptation” in terms of priests and pedophilia. “Temptation”? Are you kidding me? If ever “Eww!” has meaning it’s here. Any sane grown adult recoils at the sheer grossness of pedophilia - but in the Church hierarchy their collective sexuality is so stunted they can’t even grasp that. I agree with your assessment on putting JP2 on the sainthood fast track. (IMHO The Church still does not grasp what is actual sainthood. Exhibit A: Thomas More. Who had people burned at the stake.) There were many great things about JP2, but he is not a saint. Sorry for going on a bit.

philmore · July 19, 2018, 5:11pm

Best line of the day!

philmore · July 19, 2018, 7:55pm

Yes. And priests who wanted nothing to do with liberation theology were murdered as well. JP2’s response was, to be charitable, disappointing.

mrf · July 20, 2018, 12:28am

I get my dose of Douthat in my weekend print delivery of the NYT. Between his pre Vatican II Opus Dei musings and my girlfriends moderate America-National Catholic Reporter on the table at her house its full theology.

philmore · July 20, 2018, 8:42am

I let my subscription to America lapse. I can’t keep up. I (finally) gave up on Douthat after his rank dishonesty / profound ignorance in comparing Trump / North Korea to Jack Kennedy / the Cuban Missile Crisis. (Frankly, just about anyone else in that chair back in '62, we probably wouldn’t be having this conversation.)

mrf · July 20, 2018, 1:02pm

That column I could barely get through because it was so absurd but when he goes off on Catholic theology it’s an interesting perspective on how the anti Francis wing think.